A pup was walking down the street when it came across a group of young boys. The leader of the group spotted the dog and pointed it out to his friends. Seeing the boys, the dog too wagged his tail and barked, looking forward to being petted and making new friends.
However,even as the pup wagged his tail, one of the boys picked up a stone. The boy turned to the others and told them how dogs are bad because another dog had bitten his grandfather years ago. As he nodded, a second boy picked up another stone even as he spoke of the incessant barking of stray dogs in his neighbourhood at night, disturbing the sleep of his family. A third spoke of how dogs are bad because of religious reasons. The others realized the wisdom in their friends' words and each picked up a stone, aware now that breeds like this could not be trusted. The pup stood where he was, confused as he watched the boys come closer to him.
By the time night had descended upon the land, the boys had dispersed and gone to their individual homes. There was a sense of accomplishment, having stopped a menace from entering their streets. Lying bloodied and brutalized, the pup that had wagged his tail in hope of giving and receiving love licked its wounds. It was too young to know that the physical wounds would heal in due time... but it was now old enough to have learned to distrust the species of stone throwers. The most selfless creature since time immemorial now knew to hate... because that was what it received for no fault of its own. For the crimes of others, it had paid with its body and soul.
That, in a nutshell, is the reason why I will never allow you, my child, to become a doctor in India.
Still confused, I guess? It is okay. Take a chair and sit down... this is going to take awhile.
Increasingly, I find myself watching and talking to doctors across two generations and various specialties these days. And increasingly, that sense of despair and disillusionment is writ large in their words. They find themselves wondering where things went wrong even as they struggle to bring a smile on their faces.
With 0.7 doctors per 1000 Indians, the doctor:patient ratio is far below that of other comparable countries like China (1.9), United Kingdom (2.8) and United States (2.5). Spain's 4.9 seems like an absolute luxury in comparison, I must admit. What this means in layman's terms is simply this - that you are always going to be swamped with patients beyond the logical human capacity in India.
Thou shalt sacrifice your time, parents, spouse and child.
Getting a 63 hour a week schedule (7 days x 9 hours) is a blessing and most of the young guns who join in fresh after post graduation know fully well that a 100 hour a week schedule is par for the course once you begin working.
And sadly, this is advocated and in fact encouraged by most hospitals too - who wouldn't want to have workers in a contract which states 8 hours a day and then get them to work 14, stating that 'this is how it is for all doctors and besides, we are in the business of selfless service.'
You would never allow a taxi driver to drive you for 24 hours continuously but asking surgeons to do that every third day is fair game in India, apparently.
And sadly, this is advocated and in fact encouraged by most hospitals too - who wouldn't want to have workers in a contract which states 8 hours a day and then get them to work 14, stating that 'this is how it is for all doctors and besides, we are in the business of selfless service.'
You would never allow a taxi driver to drive you for 24 hours continuously but asking surgeons to do that every third day is fair game in India, apparently.
Wanting to do the allotted number of hours in your contract and then come home to your family is now frowned upon in our field... it implies weakness. Nay, it implies a a lack of professionalism.
Thou shalt sacrifice thy life dream...
This came in my Facebook timeline. It is
It is a sacrifice that will take away your twenties and eat away at your thirties. You may enter the field bright-eyed at 18 but I must ask you - what happens if the dream to become a heart surgeon does not reach fruition?
If for some reason, you find yourself unable to get the coveted seat or devote the fifteen odd years I assume it will take to become the junior most in your department, would you be happy with your life? Would you be able to live with losing the dream or would the disappointment eat you up from within?
Who cares for the doctor?
A young surgeon working in one of the premier institutes in India spoke to me the other day. This was a doctor who was so passionate a year ago about becoming even better, working hard to get into a super specialty course. She had joined the hospital because of its awe-inspiring reputation across India, aware that the hard hours she put in would sharpen her skills and broaden her knowledge of the specialty. The woman I spoke to had lost that drive altogether.
Walking out of her home at 7 AM and returning home at 10 PM just to fall into bed and then wake up again at 5 in the morning to restart the cycle, she wondered what was the point of it all. She was losing touch with her loved ones and had become a zombie, lost between the politics within the hospital and a total lack of social life.
All this for a handsome salary of 50,000/- a month (in Mumbai. 2015) which she knew would not buy her two nights in the ICU of the very hospital she was working in. There would be a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, I wanted to tell her. She would earn more in her forties than her techie friends earned in their thirties, I could have consoled her. But I did not. Because I know how she feels.
Another doctor spoke out recently on a public forum, talking of his experience of doing six years of rural service for the government. When he finally left it two years ago, the man in his thirties had less than Rs 15,000/- in his bank balance with no extravagant purchases or trips to boast off. He needed his parents help at that age to still pay for his rent. It all came to a head when the guy at the shop recharging his mobile revealed how his monthly takeaway was more than the doctor's... without any risk whatsoever.
His one plea to all the doctors listening? Do not be a sentimental fool and get blackmailed by the medical system to go work like he did... because nobody cares for your service at the end of the day. And I totally agree with him. If after more than a decade in the medical field, he cannot provide as much for his family as an mobile shop owner, then why did he need to go through so much of an effort at all?
If India considers it a crime for doctors to earn money while closing their eyes when judges, lawyers and uneducated politicians magically accumulate crores, is it not the folly of the person aspiring to be a doctor? How dare he dream of providing for his family?
More statues, less healthcare is the solution (apparently)
The very fact that our stats are comparable
with Nigeria speaks for itself
with Nigeria speaks for itself
The medical field we entered is not the one we are in today. Even the generations before us acknowledge this. And it is only getting worse.
For a field like ours in a country like ours which is overpopulated and has a major portion of that hovering below or around the poverty line, having the support of the government to ensure the benefits of health care reach everyone is vital to our success. They needed to make medicines more affordable at the very least. Sadly, rather than increase the amount, they decided to cut the budget allotted to health care by nearly 20 percent.
Key sectors like HIV/AIDS lost funding rather than having it increased. This at a time when we spend a mere 1% as it is on public health care in India as opposed to 3% in China and 8% in United States. What can I say, my child? I guess India is healthier than those other poor nations, are we not?
Key sectors like HIV/AIDS lost funding rather than having it increased. This at a time when we spend a mere 1% as it is on public health care in India as opposed to 3% in China and 8% in United States. What can I say, my child? I guess India is healthier than those other poor nations, are we not?
Defensive Medicine
I wish it were JUST about losing your family life, working twice the allotted hours and taking home the pitiably disproportionate salary though. But sadly, it isn't even that anymore. Now, it is about getting home in one piece. From stopping patients from dying, the medical field is now being forced to worry about not being killed by the patients bystanders.
The essence of being a doctor - to do the best we can to heal - is being taken away from us because now we need to be on the defensive.
Guess what? It comes with riders, apparently.
You remember that cute little thing we've been talking about called selfless social service?
Guess what? It comes with riders, apparently.
- Selfless service means you do the extra hours because the hospital is perpetually understaffed.
- Selfless service means you take home a call centre worker's salary because the healing you do is a service, remember?
- Selfless service means you adjust with the lack of drugs and instruments available and still save people because there is no other hospital nearby.
- But that line stops there. If the patient collapses while in your care, suddenly all these boundaries vanish.
You are then the monster that the public reads in the papers - the one who killed their loved one because of your greed to steal their money/harvest their organs/molest their ailing mother or child. Then the very same people who demanded that doctors take home a salary in 5 digits will have no problems in demanding compensation in six or seven digits. It does not matter if they are wrong... what is important is that by spoiling the doctor's reputation, you succeed in blackmailing him or the hospital into a compromise. If every death inside a hospital were to be called a case of medical negligence, why would doctors admit the patient at all?
Are you willing to die for your profession?
The Indian Medical Association confirmed in May 2015 that over 75% of the doctors in India have faced some form of violence at the patient's hands in India.
75%. This is after admitting that not all cases of violence get reported to them. There are even instances of doctors being actually killed for following the law. How do you explain that to his widowed wife? When was the last time you saw a software techie being killed off for not making an app properly? Still feel like using the 'Selfless service' card again? That's a pretty thin card to keep playing while beating every 3 out of 4 doctors, don't you think?
75%. This is after admitting that not all cases of violence get reported to them. There are even instances of doctors being actually killed for following the law. How do you explain that to his widowed wife? When was the last time you saw a software techie being killed off for not making an app properly? Still feel like using the 'Selfless service' card again? That's a pretty thin card to keep playing while beating every 3 out of 4 doctors, don't you think?
The recent verdict in the Joseph Eye Hospital case brought the reality of the Indian mindset home to many doctors. Handing down verdicts of imprisonment to 3 doctors for the loss of vision of 66 patients following an eye surgery camp, the judicial system showed an amazing lack of comprehension about what was going on.
It does not need a rocket scientist to realize that a single trained doctor cannot make the same mistake 66 times in 66 different eyes on the same day. The obvious answer to such incidence of mass endophthalmitis is in the use of unsterile solutions used - the unsterile part being a fault of the pharmaceutical company that manufactures the solution.
It does not need a rocket scientist to realize that a single trained doctor cannot make the same mistake 66 times in 66 different eyes on the same day. The obvious answer to such incidence of mass endophthalmitis is in the use of unsterile solutions used - the unsterile part being a fault of the pharmaceutical company that manufactures the solution.
There is no way for a doctor to know (without opening every individual bottle and testing them!) if the solution contains microscopic bacteria just as there is no way for you to know if there are any in your coffee before drinking it. And yet, to please a crowd baying for blood and money, even though it was obvious the fault lay with the tainted solution, the doctors were sent to prison. Sounds familiar, does it not?
Remember the Chattisgarh sterilization deaths of 2014?
Everyone knows the doctor's name in that case. It was later proven that the fault was with the tainted medicines which were made in rodent infested factories. So tell me, what was the name of the pharmaceutical company and what action has been taken against it since then? You don't know? How shocking!
Remember the Chattisgarh sterilization deaths of 2014?
Everyone knows the doctor's name in that case. It was later proven that the fault was with the tainted medicines which were made in rodent infested factories. So tell me, what was the name of the pharmaceutical company and what action has been taken against it since then? You don't know? How shocking!
It raised the obvious question to many doctors though.
Why would we do such a service at all when we are being cheated?
By doing a single private patient for Rs 60,000 (which is still cheaper than the Dhs 15,000/- charged abroad), the doctor can choose to use the best drugs from reliable companies instead of the generic substandard ones and make a hundred times more money doing one case while being totally ethical. Can you call them cheats then? No. Except that by doing so, we all know as doctors that nobody would then care for the treatment of the poor, if we give up on them too.
By doing a single private patient for Rs 60,000 (which is still cheaper than the Dhs 15,000/- charged abroad), the doctor can choose to use the best drugs from reliable companies instead of the generic substandard ones and make a hundred times more money doing one case while being totally ethical. Can you call them cheats then? No. Except that by doing so, we all know as doctors that nobody would then care for the treatment of the poor, if we give up on them too.
That is what being a doctor in India is all about, in the end.
- You are forced to go to the India that India forgot, the most rural crevices and cul-de-sacs where healthcare is actually needed.
- You are asked to bang on doors and seek out the ailing.
- You are asked to bring as many of them as you can back with you.
- And then you operate on them all for the handsome fees provided by the government (Rs 650/- is given to most hospitals, I hear, though I will gladly accept any revised figure too.)
- The government cuts its costs by making you do Rs 60,000 surgeries for 600, citing rural service (which naturally does not apply to engineers and lawyers - because these areas don't need them at all.)
- The doctor carries the moral responsibility of helping as many patients as possible and so is asked to do work well beyond his physical and mental capacity.
- Generic pharmaceutical companies will pawn off their goods made in unsterile conditions at a lesser rate.
- When things go bad, the crowd will calmly ignore the government and pharmacy that cut corners for a profit and be at the doctor's doorstep with stakes and pitchforks. And celebrities will be there to tut-tut on national television about how doctors are corrupt and cutting off organs for their own profits.
The Malaise Within
Are all doctors good? My dear child, surely even you at this tender age cannot be so naive. Of course not. The one factor that holds good across all walks of humanity is our tendency to be a mix of good and evil. This extends across religions and Godmen to politicians and doctors and everything in between.
Before we were doctors, we were normal people too. And we have inculcated values from our family and peers for over two decades before we earned the right to wear that stethoscope. And whether we want to or not, that does show in the way we carry on.
- So yes, there are going to be doctors working beside you who will promote a medicine not necessarily because it is good but because the pharmaceutical rep gives him a good incentive. And you will see that doctor taking home more than you do for doing the same work as you and the devil on your shoulder will smile. He will positively grin, in fact, as you stare at the price of the new smartphone which is beyond your financial reach because social service and respect do not pay the bills.
- There will be those who need to make back the money spent on getting a seat... I hear certain post grad seats now go for 4 crores. Well, damned if I know why people would take it up when you could just as well earn more with the interest from the bank for that amount but hey... to each his own.
- You will find doctors who are forced to do the extra procedure because, working in a private hospital, they need to answer to the heads above. They need to make a profit for their bosses who shrug as they remind you that if the hospital runs into losses and shuts down, the loser is the patient himself. And when you think about it, they are right, are they not? Private hospitals (which still cater to a huge percentage of the population) need to make a profit to continue. If they shut down, the healthcare of the country would collapse in months simply because government hospitals would never be able to manage the volume. Again, the arrow of your moral compass will tremble as you grapple between the inner desire to treat people in pain and the requirement of forcing them away to a less safer center because they (like you!) cannot afford this hospital.
- Know that you are not God. 'Feeling like a God' when you see a patient open his eyes after a successful surgery is different from believing you are a God. It only need one mishap for such Gods to fall... and fall hard.
- Professional competition exists too, as though you didn't have enough on your plate. Being competitive probably exists in every field but here the game is played with people's lives. But when someone discredits you to sway the patient to leave you, you wonder what the point really is. Was it not supposed to be about healing people?
The imbecilic outsiders
Cases in point:
- When one state was unable to deal with the number of patients in the rural areas who needed health care, doctors from the neighbouring state stepped in and conducted camps there, helping the poor get the treatment they needed. How did the former state respond? By banning all the doctors from the other hospital for THE CRIME of providing health care to people in need. They could not provide it themselves but they would not allow the other state to lend a helping hand. This was the stand of the elected ministers in the end - we would rather our folk suffer than allow you to take credit for helping them when we cannot do it ourselves.
- You have ministers running tobacco empires who head committees on health and undo all the work of doctors by claiming that tobacco is good for health.
- You have self-proclaimed fakirs and saints telling to raise the population manifold at a time when we are stretched at the seams due to overpopulation.
You as a doctor are caught in the moral ineptitude of such politicians and film stars who never attend government hospitals themselves and yet decide how hospitals must be run.
This is what every young doctor in India today is struggling with - the disillusionment of it all.
We want to heal... we want that satisfaction of being able to save lives and see a cheerful smile on the face of someone who came to us in anguish. But not like this.
Not dictated by the whims of businessmen who demand profits, not by the fear of being beaten up by relatives of patients who cannot accept death as an eventuality, not while worrying about how to pay the next electricity bill and not by losing our touch with everyone who matters to us just because a nation chooses not to strengthen its own healthcare system.
The fear you feel as a doctor should be because you think you have missed a differential diagnosis when a patient comes to you, not that you will be beaten up if the patient's condition worsens.
Depending on where you work, you will face some permutation or combination of the above ills of being a doctor in India.
And it will eat you from the inside.
You will wonder how to strike the balance between being there for those you love personally and those who need you professionally.
You will ask yourself how everyone demands you have a dozen degrees beyond your name and yet does not seem to think it necessary that you be paid equivalent to the effort you put in to reach here.
You will see your peers do everything by the book and get beaten down by hospital politics or physically by patients and you will wonder - should I save the next critical patient who comes into the hospital or refer him elsewhere to save myself, knowing that the law has failed me.
And in that moment, you stop being the doctor you set out to be.
'Selfless Service' does not require that you give up your soul and life.
People only use that term when they want doctors to go the extra mile. That selfless service tag stops when the time comes to pay the bill. When it is time to beat up a doctor or insult the entire fraternity based on one doctor or sometimes, pure ignorance.
You can choose to be selfless in so many ways.
donate to the needy, adopt a child, participate actively in programs by worthy NGOs... heck, just by not harming or cheating anyone, you are basically being selfless in today's world, I reckon. Why, you can run over innocent people sleeping on the pavement and still be called selfless, as long as you have money to donate in front of the media for a worthy cause, as I found out recently.
Understand this:
Ligating pulsating blood vessels is not a service.
Restarting a heart is not a service.
Suturing meticulously with threads thinner than the hair on your eyebrow is not a service. Identifying the extent of a tumour in the brain right down to the last millimeter while operating to remove it is not a service.
Ligating pulsating blood vessels is not a service.
Restarting a heart is not a service.
Suturing meticulously with threads thinner than the hair on your eyebrow is not a service. Identifying the extent of a tumour in the brain right down to the last millimeter while operating to remove it is not a service.
It is an art.
It is a specialized skill. It is a test of your endurance because at the end of the 25th hour of straight duty, you better save that 20th patient on your operation table or else everything you have done before this does not matter. Above all else, it is a sacrifice.
It is a specialized skill. It is a test of your endurance because at the end of the 25th hour of straight duty, you better save that 20th patient on your operation table or else everything you have done before this does not matter. Above all else, it is a sacrifice.
As a father, you will find me as broad minded and tolerant as they get.
You will have every opportunity to choose whether you want to retain your religion or change it based on what resonates within your mind. You will have every opportunity to choose the love of your life irrespective of caste, creed or even gender (though if you choose to go lesbian, may I just point out that Ellen Degeneres would be a lovely role model to emulate - kind hearted, hilariously, smart... plus Portia for a life partner!)
I will let you have every choice in life and I will be there to support you and guide you along the way. You can be a wildlife photographer trekking through the Amazons or dance the poles at Las Vegas. But I will never allow you to become a doctor in India. Because I did not raise my child for two decades just to watch her lose her sense of right and wrong - of humanity - or worse, watch her die.
And I don't mean just physically.
Authors note:
I have been conversing with a lot of doctors recently and the sound of disillusionment about the field has never been as loud as it is today. Even doctors of generations past and heads of departments acknowledge the shift, stating that they are happy that they are not starting off their careers in today's India. One line which many of them said and one which I also agree with entirely is the basis of this article - "I will never allow my children to join this field."
There is also an email sitting in my inbox asking me to sign and share a petition demanding that applications for licensed guns be fast tracked for doctors. I have read it and placed a 'star' across the mail. I do not intend to sign it because I don't advocate guns as a rule... I see children cry everyday when I bring an intravenous cannula near their tiny arms. I do not wish to have them worry about the gun in the doctor's pocket too. But I empathize with the sorrow of the doctors who made the petition. And I know one day, I too may find myself revisiting this petition should a calamity befall me. As its is, hospitals have started employing bouncers now.
I would love to hear from doctors here as well. Even if you disagree with my thoughts entirely, I do not mind. I just want to see how far the disillusionment lies and whether the "Hippocrates Oath" and "selfless service" tag are still as strong in your hearts today as it was the day you joined your medical college. Where do you think it is all going wrong in India?
Update (16 May 2015):
I would like to thank Dailyrounds.org (for republishing my article) and all the others who shared this across social media on their timelines for helping get the word across.
Update (18 May 2015):
Thanks to Scroll.In, Scoopwhoop, Ndtv, Docplexus and Quartz too now, I guess. As for a popular news media site which shared the blogpost, I guess I should specify here - This is a letter to my future kids. I DONT have a child yet. :)
Update (19 May 2015):
Okay, I have lost track now of who all have shared. HuffingtonPost, Deccan Chronicle, Navbharat, Asianet... Thank you all.
Okay, I have lost track now of who all have shared. HuffingtonPost, Deccan Chronicle, Navbharat, Asianet... Thank you all.
Some people have asked me to comment on the fun headlines of the media sites which published this post, focusing on the 'pole dancer' bit. Frankly, I realize that it is a bit much to use that as a headline but if it serves the purpose and gets doctors engaging in a discussion, I will gladly take the hit for it :)
Update (22 May 2015): Do you have a solution to offer for the ailments here?
For those interested, the follow up post to this one is now online here where we ask everyone for their ideas on fixing the system.
Update (28 August 2015):
As I have updated my commenting system from the highly restrictive G+ , the 330 odd comments which were here previously are no longer visible. But don't worry, they are still there online and someday if Google Plus makes integration of their comments to other formats possible, will reappear here. For now, if you wish to see the 500 plus comments from doctors across India and even abroad, do visit the links at DocPlexus and DailyRounds.
Update (23 October 2015):
Leading medical Journal, the Lancet, points out the same lacunae I did regarding the terrible healthcare policies by the Indian government. The question is, will anybody finally stand up and make the change or are we doomed to watch the Indian healthcare system deteriorate even further?
Leading medical Journal, the Lancet, points out the same lacunae I did regarding the terrible healthcare policies by the Indian government. The question is, will anybody finally stand up and make the change or are we doomed to watch the Indian healthcare system deteriorate even further?
Sir actually I needed ur advice m very much confused whether to go with MBBS or CA. Actually my age is 20yrs I always wanted to do MBBS so had also given entrance 3 times in a row till I didn't get MBBS. But this year also I didn't get it in first two rounds of counselling of mhcet so I had started preparing for CA cpt nd now yesterday in 3rd round I got gmc chandrapur and now its like I think CA will be quite better than doctor as becoming doctor I would be in my 30 's which will be quite late to support my family financially bt all my family members think mbbs is way better than CA . so plz give ur valuable advice on it as soon as you get time as I have last two days to decide now. Waiting for ur advice nd totally confused creature...
ReplyDeleteSave ur self and your family...go for CA
DeletePlease don't join mbbs.
DeleteWhile it would be gloating for me to say that I too feel that MBBS is better than CA, the other aspect that you talk about - attaining a decent salary in your 30s - is what is perhaps more important in your case. Yes, If you start now at 20, you would be a minimum of 25 when you complete MBBS and still have to do internship for 1 year, get a pg and do the 3 year course with 1 year added rural service. So 30 would be the time you start off as the juniormost specialist in your department.
ReplyDeleteYou have worked so hard to reach this point - giving entrance thrice. I know its tough to watch a dream slip by, so it comes down to this question: can you (and ur family financially) hold on till 30 years of age before you start earning... think it over long and hard. If the answer is yes, then go for it. Hopefully, by the time you come out, we would have found some solution to the issue of violence against doctors.
If the answer is no, then avoid it.
Dear sir,
DeleteEven at the age of 30 years he still has to pursue DM/ Mch/ or other specialisation!! So...when MS dhoni retires at 33 years the poor doctor would have just started his journey!!
San koi dhoni nahi hai
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ReplyDeleteJust now ·
INDIA is worst place to enjoy medical profession or any learned profession.
Why not same level of accountability is being considered against of all those of same level on government posts or others .
Why only doctor is responsible when the system is crumbling on itself why are IAS and lawyers and judges and military personnel and politicians are not responsible and held accountable for the work .
It's not work of a doctor to take moral responsibility for rotten society.
Why it's always been asked how many license of doctors are canceled .
Why it's being not asked how many licenses are being canceled against lawyers or how many judges being impeached .
Or how many IAS's being terminated .
These bloody illiterate politicians and Bureaucrats ( BA pass) .
Why not it's being asked how many people have suffered because of supreme courts so many holidays (more than school holidays). where as if a doctor goes to strike ur going to knock them off wow .
India is a place where least respect is for the most learned person except if he is a Thug or u have lot's of Gandhi (money) or mad fan following .
The value of a doctor is so low that he has to taste food of a murderer .
Anchors like Arnab goswami and teaches a doctor to treat dengue through antibiotics and Looters like Amir khan teach doctor's about humanity.
Lowest respect is for teacher's (any learned man) .
Highest respect for a communal Man
Is this is the land of intellectuals who had written Vedas .
No body ask's how many times a doctor went to an ugly clerk for his salary.
These bloody clerk's .
UPSC takes best of the best into IAS why not india is changing .
Who is responsible .
Ans- Doctor, because he is God. But a judge (Lord) is exempt.
WHY .
nothing can change this land of gandhi whererapist are enjoying law and women in haryana are being used worst as slave where politicians say will bring girl's from other state for marriage but this is not a rape It's culture .
India is not going to change because someone is not bad because he do wrong deeds but follow a religion.but a doctor in village sent to jail to treat tribals (dr binyak sen).
Drugs are banned from prescription but production is allowed.
Dr razi shahid
Have heard about this wonderful blogpost of yours long before I met you . Wonderful one with lots of insights and portraying the true picture of the Medical system in India . Keep up the good work Doc
ReplyDeleteThanks Anindya :) Let's see if we can influence change in the system in the long run atleast
DeleteWas wondering doc if you would/could write one even if an imaginary one on "why I will encourage more youngsters to take medicine as a profession" ? cos the doc patient ratio and all...
ReplyDeleteDee, India
Hi Dee,
DeleteYou put up a really nice challenge and one that noone has asked me in all these days since the blog came out. I really wondered whether I could get myself to write such a post honestly. The truth is I probably could... but it would be something I myself don't believe in. Instead of that, I would forward you towards some of the articles and rebuttals which other doctors and journalists came out with against this post. While I don't agree with their point of view, I respect their opinion.
But at least they truly believe in it and that would be the apt article for you to read and judge
what can you do when you see the parents buying pg seat for their ward ?
ReplyDeleteSame situation here in Pakistan evenworse....Tmos are paid 50000 rs but thats pakistani rs...with no other facilities.....
ReplyDeleteI love this blog post. It's wonderful. I'm 18 and I want to become a doctor but I can not lose my sense of morality. Trying to convince my parents to let me study in another country XD Not going good so far. The government fees are attractive aren't they?
ReplyDeleteI finished my Mbbs recently this year. I am 23yrs old. I totally agree with the post. During intern ship, On an opd day in any department my stay in hospital would be from 24hrs - 32hrs. And such opds will be there 2/week. Other days 8/10-12hrs, no holidays, continuous 365 days. Absolutely no personal life. My salary was Rs 6000/-. My parents used to call me once in 15 days to check if I am ALIVE, during that phone call, I used to ask extra money from them. And nobody recognizes your work at the end of the day, instead they call us for doing more work.... The worst is the Post graduate students situation. They work like that for 3 years with no holidays and very less pay, and ontop of it they will be harassed by patient's attenders . ...... And now I started my PG ENTRANCE EXAM preparation, no money as bank balance , parents are supporting, very less hope due to high cost of PG seats, lot of competition, lot of reservation. I dunno why government keeps reservation at high education level... To protect docs(themselves) from harassment by people, docs write costly medicines and more investigations.... I guess people need that punishment for harassing docs. Pay more money for more attention is the new moto I guess. .i would suggest one thing for juniors.
ReplyDeleteIf the person is really interested in medical course with min 95% marks and is ready to spend min 10-12yrs in studying OR His background is good enough to support him for management seats THEN GO Ahead With this course in INDIA. Because not even one patient cares or is concerned about you or your family. Why should we bother about such people then. Instead we start loosing our closed ones like friends, family and wife.
I am a doc in India n all the so called morality and serving humanity went out of the window. Slowly .Some awfully violence against doctor news , when in post grads.,I understood if I sleep 1 hour ,if I get to sleep for 3 hours a day well nobody gives a damn except my mother.if I had food or not.When I M sleepless n hungry,sitting at opd all these patients and their relatives pounce on me .All that I feel is self pity n the same for my counterparts.when all u could sleep is 2 hrs or not all.Social life ,movies ,eating out with friends ,and I don't know what all todays youth get to do, is just a distant dream.I have no idea what it must b feeling like.with no holidays n no Sundays for me ( because I M a doctor) why I don't know. Why I don't deserve a holiday just because I M a doctor and many other questions do consume me at times. But who cares there's no forum media hates us. Now Amir Khan teaches us.Its like let's teach moral science to doctors fad catching up fast.when I tell my frends or at times day today people that I M a doctor,they ask me so u must have spent a lot ofoney Na in correspondence.they all think n see it as business.They have no idea apart from this long ordeal of learn n earn give exams , don't sleep,dont eat,i also had to burn midnight oil to crack the all India entrances which I guess nobody effing cares,but disputedly is the most difficult exam in the world .some people get stuck in that stage for 2 -4 years while all they do is give study , give entrance exams n wait for results n start over again if they didn't get a seat.well 2-4 tears duration is actually duration of. Adegree course a doctor in his 20's spends his youth inside The room locked up.Thats the condition .But you know who really cares . Absolutely nobody.After all this it is simple . U TAKE MONEY TO TREAT PATIENTS , U R NOT ONLY A BAD DOCTOR U R A BAD HUMAN BEING AN IMMORAL HUMAN BEING .However funny it sounds but it speaks of how minds percieve us today.And slowly all our minds( doctor's) r bound to get themselves into WHO CARES mode..n why shouldn't it.right?
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ReplyDeleteI was sincerely touched by your post. It took me ten years back in time, in 2006, when I was sitting with my parents and making a decision for life. It reminds of how my mother told me that I should take up commerce and not science, but 15 as I was, so adamant, I took up science because I wanted to be a doctor. My parents are very supportive, they supported me through out and today I am a doctor and am current pursuing post graduation.
As kids doing graduation, we aren't much aware of the crisis around us.
The first time I got a glimpse of reality was during my internship when I was posted in that casualty and a man walked in with a knife.
Similarly, I became aware of how patients relatives lie when they want to hide their mistakes and put the blame on the treating physician. i.e. they bought a dead girl, said she has been unconscious after she fell of the swing, the doctor has to save her life, and then we saw a ligature mark on her neck.
I was baffled when my own friend was assaulted by a patient's relative during his night shift, in the first week of post graduation. That has seriously left a mark on him as well as the people who know him.
I am very much in agreement with you that I shall not let my child become a doctor in India, just like my mother had a said some 10 years ago.
I don't want to say it, but I got into this profession to help people, now I look at myself asking for help. And somewhere deep down I do regret not listening to my mother. I wish my child listens to me.
Thank you for writing this blog.
Regards,
Dr. Maheshi Chhaya
I am a doctor , India is a corrupt country , no value of educated person. I left India 10 years back.
ReplyDeleteIt was a reallly nice read and sadly the harsh truth. I completed my mbbs in 2015 and preparing for pg and just wanted to know if it would be better to join defence than to be squashed outside by pateints attenders
ReplyDeletedisturbing..... while at it maybe u could, rather u should recommend what is teh panacea to this malaise
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ReplyDeleteThis is perhaps the most well written article I have read thus far, regarding the reality of being a doctor(Not just in India)
Might I point out, the reality you have described applies to my country of residence as well. ( Only difference being, people are slower to realise the issue at hand, and they have ONLY JUST started abusing doctors).
When everything is fine, they thank GOD, when shit happens, the doctor is at fault.(Never blame the patient's choice of lifestyle, Obesity of BMI 45, regular nights puffing away some who - knows - what weed.) Just as you have described, our doctors are underpaid compared to their other counterparts in the private sector/other professions.
You are right, doing the ethical thing does not pay the bills. Being honest,sincere,diligent in taking care of a sick patient also does not pay the bills that well( usualy you end up paying only a portion of your bills and leave the rest to credit card debt)If you do not get your hands dirty, the next fella who does it will make a huge earning and still go scott-free with no repercussions whatsoever.(sometimes I really wonder if God is really watching from above, I do believe in GOD nonetheless)
You worked so hard to improve yourself, sit for so many exams, get into so many memberships/ training programmes, even some associate memberships just to support your peers in their work. Heck, your salary probably wont even pay for those expensive memberships/yearly CME/updates that you need to continuously improve yourself for the betterment of your patients. You are right! It's because as a doctor you are supposed to kill yourself for others! ( At least that's what it looks like nowadays)
If you push the hospital admin for doing things a little faster/better for your patients, well they will tell you go fly kites, some will even curse you! But when it comes to asking you to be selfless/righteous/sacrifice your family time/sacrifice your hours they will tell you, you are in a noble profession! Well after 10 years or so working in a failed system I would say bollocks. The politicians, forget them... you can change the bedpans but whatever remains inside it is the same.
Ok, I have really enjoyed your article. It is really a good day for me because what you have written echoes from what I thought. We know that things cant possibly change for the better( In my country at least)hence, at personal level at least, the rational thing to do, is to discourage our offsprings from joining this suicide squad called doctors... where they kill their lives, their youth, their financial freedom, their soul, their health for ungrateful humans... which are not humane at all. Pray that the doctors who are stuck in such a world/system will be watched upon and at least garner some blessings from wherever, as they continue to fight,sacrifice and to do the right thing.
Be a doctor in Denmark we need good doctors speacely in the small city's much better benefits and only 40 hours a week
ReplyDeleteMy jaw dropped to the floor when I read the disturbing stats and facts you mentioned in the post. I'm not a doctor and I never observed all these things before. These are seriously some annoying facts, Roshan! Thanks for writing and sharing this post! It's an eye-opener!
ReplyDeleteI know I'm a little late but I would really like it if someone gave me some advice.
ReplyDeleteI just wish I had stumbled upon this post earlier. I am currently in my 12th standard and 1 and a half years ago I decided that I wanted to be a doctor. Now that I think about it, it wasn't a well educated decision, after reading this I can say that it was a reckless decision. Teenagers like me tend to have an idealistic view of the world, we always feel like we can make a positive difference. And you're right, there are so many other ways of doing that. I want to be a doctor but I don't want to live in the fear of getting killed just because of the fact that doctors can't save everybody.
Having said that, if i get into MBBS now, it will be a long time before I become a practitioner. Is it really naive to hope that things will change within that time? Also, entrance exams are around the corner and I have only been preparing for medical entrance:( I don't know what to do now.. Medicine is not the only road for me but at this point, I would have to drop a year to pursue something else.
I just read the article and my faith in the decision of not giving in to my mother's wish of becoming a doctor and following her footsteps stands reaffirmed. It's a pity that the people from what ought to have been the most revered profession on earth are treated thus and that it is only getting worse.
ReplyDeleteI wish there was something we could do and solve this. But like every mammoth issue enveloping India currently, our David efforts just won't take the Goliath down. It's the harsh truth. It's only a matter of time before the system collapses and the inevitable occurs and the most we can do is to ensure we don't stand in its line of destruction.
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ReplyDeleteDear Sir, You have explained the pain of medical student in this post.
ReplyDeleteWow Roshan - this is one helluva research and analysis about themedical field. Hats off to you for this article!
ReplyDeleteA masterpiece article sir! amazing #viddhreads #MyfriendAlexa
ReplyDeleteI'm truly speechless by this. Hats off for the article and for being part of such a profession.
ReplyDeleteI will follow you boss.
ReplyDeleteand will not let my kid to choose medical proffesion.
Hello Doctor,
ReplyDeleteI loved this blog. I feel you're the right person to ask the following (after hundreds of people from varying fields that I have met). I'm a student, 18yrs of age, about to appear for my entrance on May 5, 2019.
I had a dream, I don't know when and how it began but I really really wanted to become a doctor, of wearing a stethoscope and help make people happy(I even wrote doctor XYZ on my chemistry labcoat in 12th). I took biology, topped my class in 11th, did not leave my co-curricular activities (I'm a trained dancer and artist), or my social life, teachers and my parents think of me as the "bright one", best suited for this profession. Everyone at school knows me and knows that I wanted to become a doctor. Personally, I'm troubled with anxiety on most days and end up puking before exams. Cry to sleep on some days because of the uncertainty every other field except for MBBS holds for me.
Also, I'm extremely lazy. I study and work for things that I love. Never studied the whole day or anything. Never made schedules. I was fine with every subject CBSE offered me but I found Science to be interesting. Studied because I liked Physics, Chemistry and Biology. Enrolled in a coaching and never attended it because I found these institutions and their teaching patterns useless but my parents asked me to try.
I'm not studying for my entrance. I don't know why, but it doesn't seem right. Learning MCQs and not attending my dance classes or movies with friends made me sad. I used to cry at night thinking what if I couldn't do it?
the question is, (now that I think you know me well)
Should I or Should I not?
I'm thinking of leaving this menace of entrance and graduating in Biotechnology or Zoology, rejoining dance and an NGO and make myself happy with trips. (But people say these courses aren't paying). My parents are okay with it but I see that they're not very happy because I myself am not because they are undiscovered fields with research and no guarantee. I'm not even sure if I'll like these courses in college or not.
But a part of me says that these thoughts are arising because I'm not hardworking by nature and its an excuse to not study.
What should I do?
This is the 1st time that I'm asking for someone's help this openly and freely. Please help.
-18yr old girl (dreams of a good satisfying career in science, of dancing, or having fun and a good instagram feed lol.)
Hello Sir,
ReplyDeleteI repeated this year but couldn't get a government medical seat. However I have secured a seat in gov. Dental clg. Was thinking of repeating another year for mbbs but saw your post. Now I wonder if it's really worth dropping another year! What should I do?
While I understand your angst here but comparing a well educated doctor with a speechless pup did not make me move. The example you quoted could be best connected with- why I would not be sweet to strangers and expect them to be kind. Or why we should not breed dogs in India cause Indians pelt stones on speechless animals.
ReplyDeleteI otherwise liked your article and would also like to re-iterate that like good doctors, there are bad doctors also. Doctors or hospitals that refuse to tend to patients and people like me lose their limbs cause it was sunday and no doctor was on duty at a big hospital nearby an accident spot. There are docs who mint money on patient's cost. Unfortunately the unassuming one bears the brunt.
And yes, the corruption actually kills the ones who want to make a change and the corruption is prevalent everywhere and that is the bitter truth. I hope your article would bring some good winds of change to lessen the sufferings. www.numerounity.com
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